Episode 9 – talking to Kids about Racism

Racism is everywhere. From blatantly obvious to unconscious biases we hold it pervades our society. How and when do we share the realities of the World and our views on how to address them with our children? In this more serious episode we talk about our top of mind thoughts when it comes to racism and what we personally will do to change ourselves and the World around us.


Talking to Kids About Racism:

Books to read: https://www.thecut.com/2020/05/13-books-you-should-read-about-black-lives.html


  1. Gabi
    June 5, 2020

    I’ve noticed a trend in the States. In Europe, we can have opposing viewpoints and discuss them, nobody takes offense and it doesn’t devolve into a screaming match. In the States, if I start a discussion with someone about nearly any topic (religion and politics being hot-button topics), they get highly offended, think I am trying to “convert” them to my point of view and get angry very quickly for “questioning their beliefs.” Perhaps that is a product of living in a bible-belt red state, but if you are on the offensive as soon as I say something that isn’t aligned with your views, you’re already shutting down and are dismissing anything I say. When I then tell you that perhaps you should reconsider, say, an unfortunate word choice that is definitely racist, no matter how much I sugar-coat it, you just categorize me as a “bleeding-heart-liberal” and decide I’m stupid. We need to teach kids and adults to hear others, and not just to keep feeding our own biases with like-minded rhetoric. There have been studies conducted on the topic, and we all tend to gravitate toward people and information that confirms our beliefs, but we shouldn’t allow that to shut out everything else simply because it is different. It would be nice if we could evolve past the base instinct that different is bad for survival purposes and show some sort of intellectual advancement. As to another point you made, there are so many ways to show solidarity. By voting, petitioning, on a personal level by defending your friends, by educating other white people (who are all too happy to share their racist views with other people they perceive to be white and like-minded), by going to protests, and many more. We can make a choice to do any or all of these to bring about change. Revolution is not brought about in one way but through many different avenues that exert enough pressure on the government or other group that is oppressive. Even if you donate a few $ to a cause supporting it, you have at least done something. It’s really quite easy. Thank you guys for tackling this subject. ♥

    • Shervin
      June 5, 2020

      This is something I noticed about the US a while ago and I feel it has gravitated towards the rest of the World. There seem to be only two extremes to each issue and the attitude of “if you’re not with me, you’re against me” is spreading. Having a balanced discussion doesn’t seem possible anymore and we’re seeing it in politics with right-wing parties spewing extreme vitriol all the time and voters picking it up because it’s easy. Making your point needs to happen in 144 characters or less because nobody reads for longer than that and the attention span has just reached an all-time low. You want to bring in nuance? You’re going to need at least 12 tweets – and the people arguing against you will shut it down in one by just going to the other extreme. Simple example: how many people have responded to “black lives matter” with “all lives matter”? The second statement originated as a way for white supremacists to shut down black issues on social media by claiming that black people were being racist for saying it. However, I have seen so many people who have their hearts in the right place think they’re doing a good thing by responding with “all lives matter” – simply because they didn’t invest the time to check exactly what it is they are doing.

  2. Gabi
    June 6, 2020

    I totally agree with you that social media exacerbates the issue. We all know what people really mean when they claim to have “researched” a topic. As for extremists like white supremacists, there is a very real threat and tons of disinformation being spread like wildfire. When people like Mark Zuckerberg then refuse to address this, it creates a huge problem. This is not censorship when it is essentially shutting down libelous information. However, I live here and am fully aware we’re pretty much in a dictatorship. And you’re right, fear is probably the most powerful motivator of all. Apparently we never learn from history. It’s also typical of the oppressor to get all bent out of shape (all lives matter) when a minority stands up for themselves. What upsets me is the inability to reason with people because they just don’t want to hear something different. I’d like to think that at least some of us would like to be made aware of even inadvertently doing something that hurts another, so we can be better people.

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